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	<title>Comments on: Apt-urls &#8211; Now available on the Ubuntu wiki</title>
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		<title>By: Vadim</title>
		<link>http://j1m.net/2009/04/09/apt-urls-now-available-on-the-ubuntu-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is indeed possible to add a repository via an .deb.

About time the apt: links were allowed though! I don&#039;t see PackageKit getting any love from me soon (god, it&#039;s applet, design, and the main window which looks like a worse version of gnome-app-install look nothing but a downgrade. yes, from the developer pov, being able to ask the user in a cross-repo format to install an addon is nice. but from the users, it&#039;s a downgrade atm.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is indeed possible to add a repository via an .deb.</p>
<p>About time the apt: links were allowed though! I don&#8217;t see PackageKit getting any love from me soon (god, it&#8217;s applet, design, and the main window which looks like a worse version of gnome-app-install look nothing but a downgrade. yes, from the developer pov, being able to ask the user in a cross-repo format to install an addon is nice. but from the users, it&#8217;s a downgrade atm.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bogdan Bivolaru</title>
		<link>http://j1m.net/2009/04/09/apt-urls-now-available-on-the-ubuntu-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Bogdan Bivolaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.playdeb.net/ offers a deb package which you can download as a normal file, run with GDebi (which works by default in FF) and it adds a new repository:
deb mirror://www.getdeb.net/playdeb-mirror/hardy/// hardy/ 

And that&#039;s adding a new repository without exiting the browser... Or it looks like so for the average user</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.playdeb.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.playdeb.net/</a> offers a deb package which you can download as a normal file, run with GDebi (which works by default in FF) and it adds a new repository:<br />
deb mirror://www.getdeb.net/playdeb-mirror/hardy/// hardy/ </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s adding a new repository without exiting the browser&#8230; Or it looks like so for the average user</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://j1m.net/2009/04/09/apt-urls-now-available-on-the-ubuntu-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that people need to start really thinking creatively, coming up with more attractive ways to display programs, particularly games. Having apt:// gives us the ability to make any sorts of frontends to the package manager we want. We could make an interface for games with picture or video previews. We should make people more excited about playing games on Linux, perhaps that will bring up demand and get more developed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that people need to start really thinking creatively, coming up with more attractive ways to display programs, particularly games. Having apt:// gives us the ability to make any sorts of frontends to the package manager we want. We could make an interface for games with picture or video previews. We should make people more excited about playing games on Linux, perhaps that will bring up demand and get more developed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jef Spaleta</title>
		<link>http://j1m.net/2009/04/09/apt-urls-now-available-on-the-ubuntu-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Jef Spaleta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an FYI:
Packagekit developers have developed a packagekit browser plugin which does something similar.
If/when Ubuntu moves to Packagekit you should be aware of  how the Packagekit browser plugin works so as to make an assessment of how to handle the migration of the wiki urls in an coordinated manner with a transition to PackageKit.  

And more forward looking, you might be interested in the recent discussion about how to take SuSE&#039;s one-click-install concept and apply it to the distribution-neutral PackageKit platform so that people can also easily install new repositories as well as packages from configured repositories. Something ppa creators and consumers might be interested in as a technology.  

-jef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an FYI:<br />
Packagekit developers have developed a packagekit browser plugin which does something similar.<br />
If/when Ubuntu moves to Packagekit you should be aware of  how the Packagekit browser plugin works so as to make an assessment of how to handle the migration of the wiki urls in an coordinated manner with a transition to PackageKit.  </p>
<p>And more forward looking, you might be interested in the recent discussion about how to take SuSE&#8217;s one-click-install concept and apply it to the distribution-neutral PackageKit platform so that people can also easily install new repositories as well as packages from configured repositories. Something ppa creators and consumers might be interested in as a technology.  </p>
<p>-jef</p>
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		<title>By: ethana2</title>
		<link>http://j1m.net/2009/04/09/apt-urls-now-available-on-the-ubuntu-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>ethana2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..great work though-- Clicking is certainly a lot better than copying and pasting, and I think this will make ubuntu documentation look that much more user friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..great work though&#8211; Clicking is certainly a lot better than copying and pasting, and I think this will make ubuntu documentation look that much more user friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: ethana2</title>
		<link>http://j1m.net/2009/04/09/apt-urls-now-available-on-the-ubuntu-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>ethana2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could install third party repos+gpg keys through apps &gt; add.
..Like medibuntu, miro, transmission, google, etc.  Right now adding third party repos isn&#039;t as easy as it should be, and how many people don&#039;t even bother with gpg keys for repos and just do everything in unauthenticated fashion?  I&#039;m guessing a lot.
Speaking of overcomplicating things, when is Ubuntu going to ship with an &#039;install&#039; alias?  Seriously.
alias install=&#039;sudo apt-get install&#039;
alias uninstall=&#039;sudo apt-get remove&#039;
alias update=&#039;sudo apt-get update&#039;
alias upgrade=&#039;sudo apt-get upgrade&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could install third party repos+gpg keys through apps &gt; add.<br />
..Like medibuntu, miro, transmission, google, etc.  Right now adding third party repos isn&#8217;t as easy as it should be, and how many people don&#8217;t even bother with gpg keys for repos and just do everything in unauthenticated fashion?  I&#8217;m guessing a lot.<br />
Speaking of overcomplicating things, when is Ubuntu going to ship with an &#8216;install&#8217; alias?  Seriously.<br />
alias install=&#8217;sudo apt-get install&#8217;<br />
alias uninstall=&#8217;sudo apt-get remove&#8217;<br />
alias update=&#8217;sudo apt-get update&#8217;<br />
alias upgrade=&#8217;sudo apt-get upgrade&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://j1m.net/2009/04/09/apt-urls-now-available-on-the-ubuntu-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jef, that&#039;s right.  I&#039;ll change the text to indicate that it relies on the user&#039;s &quot;configured&quot; set of repositories, and that if they have PPA&#039;s or alternate repositories in use, those will be used, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jef, that&#8217;s right.  I&#8217;ll change the text to indicate that it relies on the user&#8217;s &#8220;configured&#8221; set of repositories, and that if they have PPA&#8217;s or alternate repositories in use, those will be used, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jef Spaleta</title>
		<link>http://j1m.net/2009/04/09/apt-urls-now-available-on-the-ubuntu-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Jef Spaleta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Because it is using apt, it is relying on the user’s regular set of Ubuntu repositories - it’s not installing software from some unknown, untrusted website.&quot;

Doesn&#039;t that assume a user hasn&#039;t already configured additional repositories such as ppas or external apt repositories?  You can&#039;t really know if a user only has &quot;regular&quot; repositories configured can you? 

-jef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because it is using apt, it is relying on the user’s regular set of Ubuntu repositories &#8211; it’s not installing software from some unknown, untrusted website.&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that assume a user hasn&#8217;t already configured additional repositories such as ppas or external apt repositories?  You can&#8217;t really know if a user only has &#8220;regular&#8221; repositories configured can you? </p>
<p>-jef</p>
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