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Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:27:13 +0000

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Comment on Dear Yahoo! by nixternal

nixternal — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:58:14 +0000

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=launchpad+bug+387765&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=launchpad+bug+387765

http://www.bing.com/search?q=launchpad+bug+387765&go=&form=QBLH&qs=n

Google and Bing get it right, Yahoo doesn’t. So if Bing gets it right and Yahoo doesn’t, why in the hell do people keep on insisting that Yahoo is powered by Bing already? The US, the EU, and others haven’t approved it yet.

Comment on Dear Yahoo! by Vincent

Vincent — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:55:09 +0000

Haha, the same search on Google now also turns up this page

Comment on Dear Yahoo! by Ralf

Ralf — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:15:19 +0000

Is it true that it is powered by Bing?
Ifso getting them to fix their search results may be difficult

The deal may be made with Yahoo, but Microsoft has a corporate interest to make sure it’s not easy to fix problems with Linux or to find more information about it.

There have been article’s in the past of ‘colored’ search results where anti-linux news and pro-microsoft bias had a higher ‘bing-pageranking’.

I doubt Yahoo is able to do much about this.

Comment on Dear Yahoo! by jim

jim — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:44:57 +0000

Tux, no, I didn’t.

Comment on Dear Yahoo! by Jimbo

Jimbo — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:27:03 +0000

Note: Microsoft’s Bing actually powers the results on Yahoo. So what you are actually asking is that Microsoft improve their search index. There was a bunch of articles a few weeks back that revealed just how patchy the Bing index is, and how slow it is to update. I wouldn’t hold my breath for it to become as good as Google anytime soon.

Comment on Dear Yahoo! by bigbrovar

bigbrovar — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:58:24 +0000

Many people miss the issue. For me it doesnt really matter what Ubuntu ships as default. 1
I- use Kubuntu,
2- I use google chrome anyway.
3- I always change my search default as it relate to my needs. My major concern about this issue is the fact that this decision was made for monetary gains and not for technical reasons. How does the user benefit from this move? Many people have been quick to point out how the money *could* used to get more developers to work on ubuntu and such. Well I would be inclined to go with this argument if canonical was a foundation like the Mozilla foundation, then everything they do and every benefit that is incurred to them would necessary be to the benefit of product like firefox, thunderbird etc. However Canonical is a company, A profit making company. The number one aim of canonical is to make profit. Hence It doesn’t necessarily have to apply that this deal would result to get more developers for ubuntu. (It might and it might not. ) as it stands the number one and direct beneficiary of this deal is Canonical.

Dont get me wrong I feel canonical needs to make profit and I would defo support them being a opensource friendly company, But it should not be at every cost. There have to be a line drawn on what is acceptable or not. You can build services round ubuntu and make money from this services, Ubuntuone, landscape, the propose ubuntu music service. canonical training and ubuntu certification, and their official paid support are all avenue that could be exploited from the Ubuntu brand and goodwill. But when it comes to something which is likely to affect user experience. Then decision on that should be done purely for merit and technical benefit to the user. I really they is no way that you can convince me that yahoo search is on par with google and user experience which comes with google, maps,translating search result on the fly, cache pages etc. You just cant beat the google experience when it comes to search.

The Idea that I could pay canonical into to use my service over others just doesnt rest well with me. and many others in the community.

Comment on Dear Yahoo! by A User

A User — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:49:14 +0000

Given 8.04 is an LTS release I think it is perfectly acceptable for a search engine to return a page from the official documentation which refers to an LTS release. LTS releases are what less tech savvy and enterprise customers should be using. Most users don’t want to be upgrading their systems, or as is increasingly the suggested action _reinstalling_ every 6 months. This isn’t Windows!

Lets see what comes of this marriage between Canonical and Y!. If you want to slag off Y! there is better low hanging fruit.

[edited by the blog owner to remove an offensive email address.]

Comment on Dear Yahoo! by Tux

Tux — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:41:27 +0000

Did you try the same queries with the more sensible “Linux” instead of limiting the search to one specific distribution?

Comment on Dear Yahoo! by desgua

desgua — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:30:03 +0000

Well done, totally agree. It’s better to help improove than to try to stop the changes. After all we can’t improove without changes, and changes are almost always dificult to be done and accepted. Than let’s help instead of criticise.